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#109 – How Financial Advisors Win & Keep Business Owner Assets with Scott Bushkie



Did you know? 96% of business owners are open to switching advisors right before, during, or after the sale of their business.

That’s a staggering stat from a recent study discussed on the Top Advisor Podcast with Scott Bushkie – highlighting both a threat and a huge opportunity for financial advisors.

If you’re working with business owners or want to attract more, here are three actionable takeaways from the episode:

  1. Start the Conversation Early:
    Don’t wait for your clients approach you for a conversation about selling their business. Proactively discuss their exit plans and the value of their business before someone else does.
  2. Build a Trusted Team:
    Business owners expect their advisor to have a team of experts (including tax, M&A, and legal professionals) ready to help maximize their value and minimize taxes during this critical transition.
  3. Never Accept the First Offer:
    The study revealed that business owners almost always net a significantly higher sale price (sometimes 60–100% more) when they run a competitive sale process rather than accepting unsolicited offers.

Case in Point: The Danger of Waiting

Hear what happens when a trusted advisor “waits for the call” after a client sells – only to lose out on tens of millions in new assets because they weren’t proactive.

Or discover how partnering with experts and running a competitive sale process turned an initial $31M offer into a $51M payday for both the business owner and their advisor.

Advisors: This is an immediate opportunity to be the hero your business owner clients need or risk losing them at the most pivotal moment of their financial lives.

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About Scott Bushkie

Scott Bushkie is the Managing Partner and Founder of Cornerstone Business Services. With more than 25 years in mergers & acquisitions, Scott is a recognized leader in the lower middle market, helping business owners sell their companies, grow through acquisition, and understand the realistic value of their businesses in today’s market.

Over the years, Scott has successfully executed hundreds of transactions, domestically and internationally. He has the trust and respect of CPA and financial advisor alliances, investment banks, and other professional service firms within the M&A marketplace.

A leading authority on lower middle market M&A, Scott’s expertise is sought after by major media outlets including the New York Times, Chicago Tribune, Associated Press, CBS, and iHeart Media. The best-selling author of Finish Strong: Sell Your Business on Your Terms, he also guest authors content for numerous newspapers, magazines, and trade publications.

As a keynote speaker, Scott engages diverse audiences from national organizations to regional trade groups and international delegations. He focuses on empowering business owners to maximize the single largest transaction of their life: the sale of their business. Additionally, he equips financial advisors with strategies to better serve these owners and, in turn, significantly grow their AUM.

Scott is the founder and past chair of the Wisconsin chapter of Midwest Business Brokers & Intermediaries (MBBI), past chair of the International Business Broker Association (IBBA), past chair of the M&A Source, and the founding president of the Wisconsin chapter of EO.

Scott has been named Fellow of IBBA, Fellow of M&A Source, and was a 2025 inductee into the IBBA Hall of Fame—in each instance the youngest person in the world to receive these prestigious lifetime designations, recognizing industry expertise and contributions to the profession.

In 2018, Scott launched the Cornerstone International Alliance (CIA), providing member firms with enhanced buyer reach, access to industry experts, resources, and structured best practice sharing. In 2025, CIA had approximately 30 partner firms worldwide and facilitated the transition of $2 billion in enterprise value.

Scott also partnered with a third-party research firm to produce the 2025 National Study on Selling Your Business. The first of its kind, the study provides groundbreaking research into business owner attitudes, trends, and expectations about selling their business.

Scott holds designations as a Mergers & Acquisitions Master Intermediary (M&AMI), a Certified M&A Professional (CM&AP), and a Certified Business Intermediary (CBI). He is a registered representative of the broker dealer Ceiba Financial with the Series 62 & 63 securities licenses.

Scott’s diverse background includes entrepreneurial endeavors, management, finance, and marketing. He has operated small startups and worked with international corporations. He is a graduate of the University of Wisconsin – Whitewater. Scott and his wife Cassie live in Green Bay with their three children.


#108 – Maximizing Client & Advisor Outcomes Through Cash Flow Management with David Mozeika



The national average savings rate in the U.S. is a dismal 4%. 

If you could help your clients raise that rate as high as 20%, what would that mean to your clients and to your business?

Our featured guest, David Mozeika, is a top-performing financial advisor with over two decades of experience and Forbes recognition, who has revolutionized the way advisors and clients think about money movement.

Rather than relying on traditional budgeting or chasing higher rates of return, David Mozeika advocates for a proactive approach he calls “Income Under Management.”

By rethinking the flow of funds and intercepting income before it hits spending accounts, he’s helped clients and advisors unlock higher rates of saving and investing, leading to long-term financial confidence. David Mozeika also co-founded Currence, a tool designed to support this innovative method and foster a more collaborative, transformative relationship between advisors and their clients.

This is a game-changing approach to holistic financial planning that creates a huge win for your clients and for you!

Here are 3 key takeaways:

  1. Flip the Savings Script: David introduces the concept of “Income Under Management,” emphasizing that traditional budgeting is backward-looking and often ineffective. Instead, by redirecting income into a separate reservoir account before it hits the spending account, clients automatically become better savers; often without conscious effort.
  2. Create Transformative Client Value: Structuring cash flow in this way not only delivers better client results but can also transform relationships. Clients frequently report a sense of confidence and clarity, with some even saying, “You have transformed my life.” This leads to stronger engagement and higher referability.
  3. Business Impact: By helping clients increase their rate of saving and investing (from the national average of ~4% to 20%+), advisors can dramatically grow their own businesses. More client savings translates into more assets to manage. A true win-win!

 

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About David Mozeika

David Mozeika has dedicated over 20 years to the financial services industry, consistently ranking in the top 1% of his peers. Recognized as a top advisor by Forbes, David has a proven track record of helping clients manage their cash flow to achieve their financial goals. His innovative approach led to the creation of Currence, a platform designed to change the direction of cash flow and introduce a “speed bump” between income and spending.


#107 – 3 Top Advisor Growth Strategies – Part 1 with Bill Cates, CSP, CPAE



Welcome to a special solo edition of the Top Advisor Podcast! In this episode, host Bill Cates pulls from decades of coaching, interviewing, and his own experience to deliver a powerful session on best practices for bringing in new clients and creating real advocates for your business.

Unlike typical interview-driven episodes, today’s focus is on actionable principles, strategies, and tactics that top advisors are using right now.

Bill dives deep into what it means to be truly referable and remarkable, i.e., “worthy of remark” – exploring the vital difference between simply keeping clients happy and elevating your relationships to the level where clients enthusiastically introduce you to others.

You’ll hear real examples from standout advisors, learn about the game-changing 3 Rs of relationship marketing, and discover how targeting the right markets, building strong personal connections, and embracing your clients’ money beliefs can transform the growth and reputation of your practice.

Packed with concrete examples, episode references, and tested tools, this solo session is your roadmap to moving from incremental to exponential growth, cultivating a culture of introductions, and becoming the advisor everyone talks about.

Tune in for inspiration, insights, and practical steps you can start using today.

3 Top Takeaways

  • Being Referable Means Going Beyond Good Service: Bill Cates emphasizes that referability is about creating deeper engagement and trust with clients. It’s not just about solid financial planning; it’s about forming value connections and personal connections that turn clients into advocates.
  • Build a Clear Target Market and Reputation: Many top advisors cited in the episode have a well-defined target market, which makes their messaging more relevant, strengthens their reputation, and leads to more introductions. As Bill Cates points out, “vague intentions produce vague results; clear intentions produce clear results.”
  • Leverage Empathy & Money Stories: Helping clients explore and reframe their beliefs about money builds lasting relationships and positions you as a trusted advisor. Bill Cates shares how unpacking “broken money stories” brings a rich value to your clients that few advisors leverage. This strategy creates advocates and unsolicited referrals.

Whether you’re a seasoned pro, just starting out, or somewhere in between, these principles, strategies, and tactics are game changers for client acquisition and building a thriving practice.


#106 – Unlocking Profitability for You & Your Clients with Mike Michalowicz



“I actually call myself – lovingly – the angel of death because I was not an angel investor. Yeah, I destroyed businesses and, in the process, wiped myself out financially.”

– Mike Michalowicz

I believe that the message in Mike Michalowicz’ book, Profit First is both elegantly simple and powerful

I’ve adopted most of these strategies over the past 6 months and my business has already become more profitable, and my cash-flow management is clearer and smoother than ever before.

This interview of Mike is going to follow two parallel paths.  As a financial advisor YOU are a business owner AND you probably serve a lot of business owner clients.

This interview will give you ideas to bring more value to your clients, and at the same time help you reflect on the profitability of your own business.

Bill and Mike discuss:

  1. Profit First Mentality:
    Mike shared his personal story of financial reset, revealing how shifting your approach to “profit first” can change everything. Instead of waiting for profit at year-end, set it aside from every transaction – just like you pay yourself first in personal finance.
  2. Behavioral Hacks for Profitability:
    Discover the “small plates” strategy. Just as smaller dinner plates lead to smaller portions, breaking your income into dedicated accounts (profit, owner’s compensation, taxes, OpEx) naturally guides prudent spending.
  3. Why Most Business Owners Struggle:
    Did you know 83% of small businesses are living paycheck to paycheck? The traditional formula – sales minus expenses equals profit – actually sets most up for failure. With Profit First, sales minus profit equals expenses, forcing you to run your business sustainably.
  4. Debt & Profit:
    Think you need to pay off debt before saving profit? Think again – profit is the muscle you need to build to sustainably pay down debt over time.
  5. Owner’s Compensation vs. Profit:
    Mike Michalowicz clarified the crucial distinction: Owner’s compensation is your salary for running the business. Profit is a bonus for taking the risk. Don’t confuse or commingle these!
  6. Holistic Advising:
    Advisors, there’s a massive opportunity in linking business and personal finances for your clients. Don’t leave the business side to the accountant – address both for true financial independence.
  7. Commitment Devices: ! This is Powerful !
    Setting up systems (like hiding your profit in a different bank account) creates “commitment devices” – behavioral nudges that help you stick to your plan, just like leaving your gym shoes on the toilet lid to get moving in the morning.

Whether you’re a solo advisor, own a small business, or even part of a larger firm, Profit First adapts. The sooner you start, the greater the impact.


Rewriting Your Money Story: How Beliefs Shape Your Wealth



Most financial challenges aren’t math problems—they’re belief problems.

In my recent podcast conversation with Corey Mosley, we talked about money stories: the beliefs people absorb early in life that quietly shape how they save, invest, earn, and even value themselves.

Clients don’t always resist your advice because they “don’t get it.”
Often, they resist because the advice conflicts with a story they’ve carried for decades.

The same is true for advisors.
Your beliefs influence how you price, position your value, and show up in conversations.

When you help clients (and yourself) rewrite the story beneath the numbers, everything changes—clarity, confidence, and follow-through.

🎧 Listen to the conversation and explore how money stories shape financial outcomes.


#84 EXACTLY What to Say (And Ask) with Phil M. Jones, CSP, CPAE



“My book is titled Exactly What to Say, but maybe I should have called it, Exactly What to Ask.”

In this enlightening episode of the Top Advisor Podcast, host Bill Cates sits down with Phil M. Jones, CSP, CPAE, the renowned expert and author of the bestselling book – Exactly What to Say: The Magic Words for Influence and Impact.   Phil and Bill delve into the art and science of building an effective flow of questions that advisors can use to build trust, gain new clients, and serve those clients better.

While Phil is celebrated for his mastery of the precise language that can transform conversations, this discussion shifts the focus to the power of asking the right questions.

With financial advisors as the target audience, Phil emphasizes the importance of gaining a deep understanding of clients’ contexts before offering solutions, highlighting a strategy that invites dialogue and builds trust. 

This interview of Phil is jampacked with practical techniques, such as the OFQ (Opening, Fact, Question) method, and reveals how asking better questions can lead to improved client relationships, increased referrals, and ultimately, better service. 

Bill Cates and Phil Jones discuss:

  1. The danger of giving advice without proper context and the necessity of understanding a client’s full situation.
  2. The incredible power of curiosity-driven conversations.
  3. The technique of question stacking and creating sequences.
  4. How to use perspective-shifting questions.
  5. Overcoming inertia in clients to move them to take actions that are in their best interest.
  6. How slowing the process can help you achieve smoother and faster outcomes.
  7. The transformative power of intentional language in building rapport and trust.
  8. …And so much more!

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About Phil M. Jones, CSP, CPAE:

Best known for his international best-selling book, Exactly What to Say® – The Magic Words for Influence and Impact and his vast experience as a professional speaker at conferences and events, what is often overlooked is the strategic intellect Phil provides behind the scenes for some of the world’s biggest brands to understand their critical conversations and the success language required to maximize their effectiveness.

Phil thinks and acts differently. His precise insights around communication, added to a proven personal pedigree of peak performance and a richness of real-world experience mean that Phil is the kind of thought leader whose counsel is sought by other thought leaders.

He believes with passion that the answer to increased success, in every area of life, is to ask better questions, focus on QUALITY of conversation as well as quantity and that quite often, the difference between you, and all the others, is knowing exactly what to say, when to say it, and how to make more of your conversations count.


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Episode #56 A Simple Weekly Strategy for Elevating Financial Advisor Productivity with Brian Margolis



It’s not an accident that Productivity and Proactive start with the same three letters. 

Pro can mean For and Forward. I’m all for moving forward, how about you?

If you’re like most advisors, there are days where you feel very productive and know that you are moving your business forward. You probably have other days (too many?) where you’re simply being reactive.  You’re doing things you know you need to do, but those days don’t often feel as rewarding.

Is it possible to go from a reactive practice to a proactive practice? 

Is it possible to decrease your time working, while simultaneously increasing your revenue?

In this episode, Referral Coach Bill Cates interviews Brian Margolis, Founder of Productivity Giant and author of “The Index Card Business Plan.” 

Brian and Bill explore the power of using pillars to maximize financial advisor productivity. Brian explains the three categories of pillars and shares strategies for overcoming internal resistance. He also emphasizes the importance of focus management and shares real-life success stories of advisors who have implemented The Pillar System.

Bill and Brian discuss: 

  • The three pillars essential for financial advisor proactivity: activity/consistency, learning/effectiveness, and strategic.
  • How to identify skills with the highest ROI – so advisors can make intentional choices related to focus and skill development.
  • The role of support staff in helping advisors maintain the right habits for success.
  • The concept of focus management, which emphasizes the need to protect and manage one’s mental energy.
  • Real-life case studies of success where established advisors have transformed their businesses by focusing on specific pillars adapted to them – including one advisor who doubled their yearly AUM growth while working one less day per week.
  • The value of the Friday night feeling, indicating the satisfaction of completing key tasks as a reliable measure of success
  • …And more!

 

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About Brian Margolis:

Brian Margolis is a former environmental scientist turned entrepreneur. He is the founder of ProductivityGiant.com and author of the book “The Index Car Business Plan for Sales Pros and Entrepreneurs”

Brian’s Pillar System helps sales pros and entrepreneurs create a strategy so simple, it fits on an index card…but so powerful it’s helped create 7-figure earners and has been licensed by some of the largest companies in the world to train their teams.

Brian has been a partner or consultant in multiple ventures ranging from startups to national brands. He has worked with everyone from Shark Tank Entrepreneurs to Fortune 500 companies. Both his accomplishments and failures span a variety of industries.

In addition to his above work, and appearances on some of the largest business and sales podcasts in the world, he is still in the trenches having done thousands of individual coaching sessions with sales pros and entrepreneurs.


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Ep. #28: Building a Referral Only Practice on a Powerful Story With Tyson Vines



When it comes to building a referral only practice, you want to attract prospects and build client relationships by making two intertwined connections. You want to make a value connection and you want to make a personal connection. Both are necessary, though the mix of the two may vary from client to client.

In this episode, Referral Coach Bill Cates is joined by Tyson Vines, Founder & Financial Advisor of V Financial Partners, to talk about his process for attracting and winning new clients and building highly referable relationships with them. 

Tyson and Bill discuss: 

  • Tyson’s commitment to a referral only practice – and how he nets an average of 3.5 referral prospects per week!
  • Two tragic events of Tyson’s life, and how he connects these stories to his client acquisition process.
  • His “secret sauce” for creating advocates that provide great unsolicited referrals.
  • Tyson’s mission to change the wealth management industry.
  • The core values that guide his referral only business. 
  • How he tackles the “dreaded” conversation around fees & commissions.
  • …And more!

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About Our Guest:

After a strong Wall Street career helping sovereign wealth funds, pensions and private banks globally, Tyson Vines wanted to own a financial planning practice. He founded V Financial Partners in 2012 with the mission to care for people and their businesses through personal finance and increase financial literacy in an enjoyable, open and honest way.

Tyson’s father passed away when he was in college. Caring for his widowed mother was the top priority. The moment they met a financial adviser, emotions calmed, and comfort flowed with a sound financial plan of investments and insurance solutions.

Tyson believes everyone deserves an institutional Wall Street experience. Leaning on his global investment experience navigating the world’s largest investors through the Great Recession, V Financial Partners aims to deliver the same heightened experience to everyone. V Financial Partners offers stability and confidence to their clients.

For six years, prior to establishing his practice, Tyson was a Global Consultant Relationship Manager with Victory Capital Management, an investment management subsidiary of KeyCorp. He also worked as a sell-side equity and investment banking associate with KeyBanc Capital Markets.




Ep. #27: Triple Threat: The Exponential Power of an Effective Financial Advisor Website, Podcast, and Target Market with Jeremy Keil, CFP®, CFA, CIMA®



Is your marketing strategy a Triple Threat?

There are three important marketing strategies that every top advisor should consider using in their effort to attract more Right-Fit Clients:

  1. A well-defined, profitable target market.
  2. A financial advisor website focused on client acquisition (not just a “digital brochure.”)
  3. A podcast that creates credibility in your target market.

In this episode, Referral Coach Bill Cates sits down with Jeremy Keil, founder of Keil Financial Partners, to discuss how Jeremy employs the above 3 strategies, and how they work together to create an impact greater than the sum of its parts.

Jeremy and Bill discuss: 

  • How focusing solely on the category of retirement planning has made a big difference for his clients and the growth of his business. 
  • How Jeremy built and utilizes his financial advisor website to turn visitors into clients.
  • How working with his target market (clients employed by publicly traded companies like Harley Davidson and We Energies) translates into his unique value proposition.
  • Why he started his podcast Retirement Revealed and the impact it has made on his business.
  • How by applying this triple threat marketing strategy, his referrals have significantly increased.
  • … And so much more!

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About Our Guest:

Jeremy Keil is the founder and financial advisor at Keil Financial Partners and the host of the Retirement Revealed podcast. He works to simplify complex financial decisions so you can make smarter retirement, investment, and tax planning decisions.

Jeremy loves helping people learn more about and feeling more confident about their money.

After graduating from college, Jeremy started out by selling suits at Jos A. Bank and working on different political campaigns.

While serving as an adjunct professor at Concordia University Wisconsin (Cedarburg), and Wisconsin Lutheran College (Milwaukee), Jeremy learned how to take complex financial topics and explain them in a way that anyone could understand.

If he could keep college seniors awake during 8 a.m. Friday classes about corporate finance, you can be sure that while working with Jeremy you’ll know more about, feel better about, and make better decisions about your money.


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Ep. #26: How to Target Millennials as Financial Advisory Clients with Ivory Johnson, CFP®, ChFC



According to Forbes, “Millennials will hold five times as much wealth as they have today, and the group is anticipated to inherit over $68 trillion from their Baby Boomer parents by the year 2030. This will represent one of the greatest wealth transfers in the modern times.”

There are already approximately 618,000 millennial millionaires. Millennial millionaires make up approximately 2% of the total U.S. millionaire population. The majority of millennial millionaires have a net worth that ranges from $1 million to $2.49 million and fall  between the ages of 34 and 37.

Due to inheritances, trusts and estate planning, there will be a steady flow of Millennials getting very rich soon.

The reality is that many millennials and younger clients with huge upside want to work with financial advisors, just not in the traditional way. And, you don’t necessarily have to hire younger associates to attract these younger clients.

In this episode, Referral Coach Bill Cates is joined by Ivory Johnson, CFP®, ChFC, and founder of Delancey Wealth Management. Ivory and Bill explain the importance of attracting a younger clientele, how to target millennials by adjusting your approach, and how this will benefit your business.

Bill and Ivory discuss:

  • Why Ivory believes it’s important to work with younger clients – especially the adult children of his older clients.
  • How to target millennials as advisory clients. 
  • 2 important questions Ivory asks every client in order to become more relevant and helpful to them.
  • How Ivory deals with younger clients and the fun part of working with them.
  • Why advisors need to have a social media presence to attract millennials.
  • Ivory’s optimism for technology and digital assets.
  • and more

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About Our Guest:

With over two decades of helping families and small businesses create and protect wealth, Ivory Johnson has seen the benefits of developing a financial game-plan. Ivory combines his extensive professional and academic experiences to diagnose an increasingly complicated world. He believes that if you can’t explain it, you don’t understand it, choosing the colloquial in favor of formal.

Ivory has a B.S. in Finance from Penn State University, is a Certified Financial Planner (CFP®), a Chartered Financial Consultant (ChFC) and has been recognized by the Global Blockchain Association and RIA DAC for his proficiency in blockchain technology and digital assets. He is also a member of the CNBC Financial Advisor Council made up of 20 high-level financial professionals, and regularly contributes articles to CNBC.com, and has been quoted in Investment News, the Wall Street Journal, Black Enterprise, Money Magazine, Kiplinger’s and other publications.